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Jul
08

Who is the Red Hulk? The Mystery Continues!

There has been a lot of speculation concerning who the Red Hulk (and rightly so!) really is, I’ve mentioned it before myself. I figured to the best way to go about this is to put together a list of clues, and see where it goes from there… UPDATE: 10 out of the 13 “clues” I put together point to Leonard Samson, most in a not so subtle way, I’ve highlighted the explanations in red and amended the list accordingly. I have to say though, there’s just so $*#&ing much that says it’s Samson, that I still think there is going to be some kind of shocker/twist in the next few issues.

Clue #1 Samson is part of the initial investigation, and he seems to be sure it’s the Green Hulk, he seems to know exactly how it happened. Explanation: Yes he’s a good shrink but he knew exactly how it happened.

Clue #2 Samson has full access to Gamma Base. Explanation: Matches up with clue #8.

Clue #3 S.H.I.E.L.D. designed a gun to fit Hulk/Red Hulk’s hand.

Clue #4 In Hulk #1, Samson leaves Ross and Quartermain because he “thought he heard something”, after which the Red Hulk appears again. Explanation: It would only make sense for Samson to vanish right before the Red Hulk goes crazy.

Clue #5 Red Hulk could have easily killed She-Hulk, but didn’t. Explanation: Doc Samson had She-Hulk as a long time patient.

Clue #6 Banner says this new Hulk must’ve had previous Gamma exposure, he compares him to an overloaded battery. Explanation: Samson was exposed to the same type of radiation that mutated the Hulk (in the past, hence his green hair), although the length of his hair has always determined his strength… I don’t know why it’s short but it does look similar to the Red Hulks cut.

Clue #7 In Hulk #3, after Banner requests the murder weapon (the gun that shot Abomination), he whispers something to Ross, the only world that is partially intelligible is “HULK”. Iron Man is VERY interested to know what Banner said to Ross, although Ross declines to give ANY information.

Clue #8 Red Hulk has full access to Gamma Base. Explanation: Matches with Clue #2.

Clue #9 Red Hulk insists he is not Banner several times, refers to himself as “his own monster”. Explanation: This could be interpretted several ways, so it’s not hard to say this could support a Samson theory.

Clue #10 Red Hulk cleared all files on the S.H.I.E.L.D Helicarrier with a sophisticated virus. Explanation: Doc Samson is a M.D and inventor of several medical devices, I don’t think a virus would be too hard for him to come up with.

Clue #11 Clay Quartermain was killed, he worked for Nick Fury for a long time with Agent Jones.

Clue #12 A coat belonging to Samson is found, shredded and covered in Gamma Radiation, after the Helicarrier attack. Explanation: I refuse to explain this to someone…

Clue #13 Red Hulk stated that he has wanted to kill Green Hulk (not in his Banner form, but Hulk form) for years. Explanation: Doc Samson has been trying to control the Hulk for a long time, sometimes through friendship, more often with combat. Remember at the beginning of Planet Hulk’s run when Samson was on the Illuminati’s side in sending Green Hulk into space?

Got any ideas? Another clue to add on? Leave a comment! I’ll be going back and reading through Hulk 1-4 plus the King-Size again (there’s got to something I’m missing), I’ll update this post some more later.

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12 Responses to “Who is the Red Hulk? The Mystery Continues!”


  1. 1 Nicolas
    July 6, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    I don’t have the comics in front of me at this moment so I don’t know the exact wording and it isn’t exactly a ‘solid’ clue or anything but it may be something to note?

    When the red Hulk was attacked by the harpies that looked like Betty he took the time out to mention that it would have distracted or possibly stopped the (green) Hulk from attacking or whatever. Now I’m sure that others would think it as well however Samson would be the likely only person to mention it and he would KNOW because he has worked with the Hulk for so long and really knows him.

    Maybe I’m just grasping at straws here but it seems like it to me *shrugs*

  2. 2 The Leader
    July 6, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    Ha Ha!
    Only I am intelligent enough to create a virus that Tony Stark’s idiotic McVirus Programs can’t stop! That dunce Doc Sampson could never do it! And I also know exactly where to strike to bring down Helicarrier Gold! Ha Ha! And I am also upset that SHIELD uses Russian MiG-29s instead of American-built jets! That’s why I smashed that one over Tony Stark’s head.
    Why didn’t I kill She-Hulk? Hey, where else is a nice green fella like myself gonna find a date but with a green gal? Except maybe a skrull?
    Why did I go to a frickin’ meat locker after my victory? Why did I kill Agent Quartermain? What did I do with Thunderbolt Ross? Why am I framing Doc Sampson?
    Excuse me, I’ve got to go kick the New Avengers out of my apartment.

    See Ya.

    The Leader

  3. 3 redhulk
    July 6, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    I think that’s another good point Nicolas, Samson would see the psychology behind using the “Betty” Harpies… but doesn’t it seem a little too obvious? I guess we’ll just have to wait and find out. I can’t decide If I’d be happy or disappointed to see the Red Hulk turn out to be Samson.

  4. 4 Joe Fixit
    July 8, 2008 at 6:00 pm

    Couple of off the wall theories.

    One, is it possible that the Green hulk the Red hulk kicked the crap out of wasn’t the Hulk at all? Yeah, we saw Banner get gassed and the glass crack aannnnd he climbed up out of the underground bunker, but he also should have been able to give this Red hulk more of a run for his money and it looked like he was not getting stronger as he got angrier. Plus, how would you explain going from the WWH to the savage Hulk? Also, I saw a preview of issue six that says we’ll see the Red hulk battle the green guy. Again? Orrrr, for the first time?

    Side note that may or may not have to do with this: Just what DID Banner whisper to Ross? Did you notice how Ross said he dealt with all kinds of Hulks: Red, Green and Blue? Blue? ABomb, anyone? Does this mean Ross is the Red Hulk?

    In addition, does the fact that this Hulk is Red and at the end of WWH we see the Hulk and Tony Stark getting hit with a red laser-type weapon have anything to do with each other? Could the Red Hulk be Stark? Yeah, yeah, we’ve “seen” Iron man. But maybe it’s a skrull in the armor, or someone else, and Tony, via his laser at the end of WWH drained the power from the Hulk and transferred it to himself, later transforming into the Red Hulk. Orrrr, it was given to, or taken by someone else. (Nick Fury, Quartermain(don’t know if he’s really dead)Ross, Samson…

    Too many questions, too many loose ends. C’mon Loeb, tie em up!

    -Joe Fixit

  5. 5 brittap
    July 12, 2008 at 12:30 am

    Why would the Red Hulk kill Quartermain?

    IF Red Hulk is Samson it may go back to Inc. Hulk Vol.2 #315 Jan. 1986. Samson had just split Banner from Hulk. He had belived Hulk was now a blank slate ” He can now be trained, developed as a child would be. In time he might even be able to re-enter society,this time as a whole functioning Human!” Before Hulk could even wake up Clay showed up to dispose of the Hulk, with a ” I’m S.H.I.E.L.D and we can do anything we want” attitude. Beliving this “mindless” Hulk was an innocent Samson broke the Hulk out. Once again Samson was wrong. This “mindless “Hulk was still the embodiment of Banner’s anger but WITHOUT Banner’s influence. This Hulk went on to destroy towns and kill thousands, this is a guilt Samson has lived with for years (Inc. Hulk Annual #18 1992)

    Red Hulk/ Samson may feel Clay forced his hand, and if given a chance he COULD have made that Hulk work. Thus changing his guilt to anger for what Clay MADE him do.

  6. 6 Ozmandias
    July 16, 2008 at 3:55 am

    It is with great sorrow that I must tell you fine people, that the Red Hulk is not, in fact, Leonard Samson. This is going to be a tough pill to swallow, but Jeff Loeb is playing a rather complicated joke on you all. There are perhaps two rather vital clues to unraveling Loeb’s bizarre mystery.

    Let’s get the nicer aspects out of the way first. For those of you that are concerned that the Marvel Universe is losing Leonard Samson, fear not! As I said, the Red Hulk is not the Samson we all know and love. There is a caveat however. Not ONLY is the Red Hulk not Leonard Samson, but Leonard Samson has yet to appear in this Hulk series. Shocker, I know… but the being masquerading as Leonard Samson is indeed the Red Hulk in another form. This immediately sounds as if we have a skrull imposter then. This, sadly, is ALSO not true.

    The truth presents itself when none other than Uatu appears in Hulk #4. The Red Hulk leaps up and slugs the Watcher with a devastating Hay-maker. How undignified, wouldn’t you say. This Red Hulk must be a bad-ass, right? The Red Hulk then proceeds to explain the appearance away, by noting that the combined power of the two Hulks could split the planet in half. This, however true… is the ruse.

    GRAND REVEAL…

    The Red Hulk is none other than a rogue Watcher of Uatu’s own race. Moreover, the Red Hulk’s motives are the next aspect of the story. FIRST he took out the Abomination. NEXT he erased all SHIELD records of the Hulk, killed SHIELD Agent Clay Quartermain, and sent a message to She-Hulk and Iron-man. Note: While in Iron Man’s presence, the Red Hulk refused to speak articulately. As Iron Man records everything in his presence, by this one action Red Hulk indicated that he did not wish to have his voice patterns analyzed.

    I’m going to leave this explanation here for now.

  7. 7 Chris
    July 22, 2008 at 8:05 am

    I wish i had the comics with me to back what i about to say…Ahem The RED HULK is Ross
    He know how to fight and survive like a soldier,Has clearance to all weapons Can’t stand Banner..Red Hulk spooke about hating the green hulk for years The Id scan recognized him.Before Ross left Banner in the glass cell he really didn’t want his help or anything to do with him,sooooo when Red choked green out he said “I had to keep shaking you u wouldn’t turn back to banner.AND RED wanted the WORLD to see “HIM” KILL the HULK aka Ross wanted to show the world he could stop the hulk even shot him in the eye bottom line Ross=Red Hulk

  8. 8 per
    July 24, 2008 at 11:06 pm

    maybe i’m missing something but isnt samson pointing at the red hulk in the pic above?

    “guess who!”

  9. 9 Onyx
    July 30, 2008 at 4:17 am

    In many issues Red hulk claims that he could kill any of them at any time. Indicating that he is always around them.

  10. 10 Onyx
    July 30, 2008 at 4:29 am

    The pic of Samson poitning at Red Hulk is a cover only, possibly intended to throw the reader off. Also it should be noted how the Red Hulk taunts his opponents. Almost playing head games with them. Samson IS a shrink.

  11. 11 Onyx
    July 30, 2008 at 4:31 am

    How can the Red Hulk be Ross? In previous Banner transformations the Hulk Maintained the same hair/facial as Banner. Do you suppose Red Hulk Shaves after transforming each time? Ross has a very indentifiable mustache.

  12. 12 brittap
    August 6, 2008 at 12:34 am

    And to add to the Samsom= Red Hulk

    From Inc. Hulk #141 the first App. of Doc Samson
    [img]http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk170/nickrp75/redhulk002.jpg[/img]

    and Hulk #4
    [img]http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk170/nickrp75/redhulk001.jpg[/img]

    They do seem to share the same moves šŸ˜€


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